What Happened to Trinity Water?
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You may have noticed that it's getting harder and harder to find Trinity water on store shelves. Rumors are flying about what happened to the popular bottled water. One person I know heard they'd been pulled by the FDA for making health claims about the minerals in their water. After I heard this, I went Googling and couldn't come up with anything. There is no information on their site (trinitysprings.com) so I called their customer service line and heard the following message: "Trinity Springs is no longer in production."
So then I tried the CEO's extension and there was a message with a number for his Seattle office. I called this number expecting yet another message but a human being answered. It turned out to be Trinity Springs CFO Dean Barney and it was his home that I'd reached.
We talked for a little while and he explained what was happening with Trinity. It turns out it has nothing to do with the FDA and there's nothing wrong with the water. The company is enmeshed in a bitter court battle over ownership and has subsequently run out of operating funds. It's a complicated matter that would be impossible to go into detail here. If you want to read more info check out the following press release (pdf file) from Amcon, the water's distributor.
Mr. Barney, who is only one of three remaining employees at the company, will be leaving in the next two weeks. When I asked him if he thought Trinity water would be back he said, "Yes, but probably not in my lifetime." Let's hope he's wrong.
thanks for the update. absolutely amazing that you cannot find ANYthing on the web (or even on trinity's website) about this. it's big news amongst my healthy circle and me....
sad very sad.
I have been drinking Trinity Water for about 5 or 6 years. I don't know what to do without it.
Hopefully they will be back soon.
desparate~~~~~
its thee best water in the world..like magic....nothin tastes better or makes u feel better....I pray it will come back
What is comparable to it,,,,,ph wise???
adirondack springs, NY is the best water I ever tasted worldwide.
thought you would like this
Fiji Water has 7.5 pretty much same as Evian. That is soooo sad that it isn't available. That stuff is a miracle in a bottle.
For those of you on Washington State area or even parts of California. You can find "Zaqua" It has a pH of 9.
Hope that helps! I'm on the East Coast (D.C.) and there is nothing that I have found that has a ph that high other than Trinity.
It is really sad that greed took such a wonderful product away from the public! Foods these days are very high in sugar and acids. It was nice to have a choice of something that could balance that out. I hope the owners realize that their greed is harming a lot of people. Is money really more important than health?
Hey I'am not sure where you all are looking. I just got a case in and at this time looking at a 1 litter bottle of orginal Trinity that 3/4 empty. I just ordered it through my health food store.
I wanted to let everyone know that the Ralphs supermarket near me has a few bottles of Trinity left and it's "reduced to clear" at .99 cents per bottle. Maybe other Ralphs are doing the same.
Thanks so much for the update -- it's been driving me crazy not knowing what happebned to them! I only started drinking their "heavy-duty" mineral water about 7 months ago, but WOW what a difference it made for the arthritis in my legs! Can't believe they're out of production -- hope it isn't permanent.
Iceland Spring water has a naturally high pH of 8.5 or higher and a very low mineral content. Try this instead of Trinity!
ed hardy water has a PH of 9. and 114 trace minerals. and monatomic elements. and it is hexagonally structured. i loved trinity until i tried ed hardy, and, full disclosure here, now i am repping it. it is in health food stores in the Los angeles area, but i would be happy to ship it elsewhere if folks want to try it before it gets mass distribution.
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Zaqua, Ed Hardy are factory made water so they are not even close to Trinity. Actually PH is not that important. For example if you get a tap water and add some baking soda you'll get PH and Calcium. But not all microelements that mother nature
adds. Probably the best widely available water is Fiji. It has PH only 7,5, but TDS is 160. (Trinity TDS is 240).
Also in some small shops available some europeian mineral waters with high TDS that bottled on Alpines and Caucas.
I have been advised by the person who first recommended Trinity that Evamor is the next best choice, with a ph of 9. Just found it at Lakewinds natural foods in the Minneapolis suburbs.
I think the Iceland Spring is the way to go. It has a pH of 8.5 and TDS of 48. I don't know of any with a lower TDS. Just a thought cuz its my favorite!
Thank you all for all the info. I, too, was wondering what had happened to Trinity. The manager of my health food store told me the company was 'in trouble,' but knew no more. Tks everyone for the recommendations! And now my stupid question: What's 'TDS'?
Want to drink the finest alkaline water in the world? You can do it by making it from your own faucet. The machine is called The Alkalizer. It takes tap water and filters it, purifies it, alkalizes it, and restructures it into a smaller cluster size. When you add up the cost of buying Trinity water this machine will more than pay for itslf in a very short period of time. You can learn more about this technology and you can even purchase this in bottled water by going to www.water.healthliesexposed.com. I think you will be very excited after reading about this awesome machine.
Oh no! That's terrible news!!!!
Yeah, alkaline is the way so I have been watching my diet and drinking Evamor. Its pH 9 and the taste is pretty fine.
Checked it out at Wild Oats near Palm BayFL.
Would like to find out who is the current owner of Trinity and see what the deal is? Anyone have a phone # to call? It was the best of all the bottled water! The guy who said a filter can give you the same is full of bs.
So why can't anyone seem to find out any information about Trininty. The spring just doesn't stop flowing!!! We need to get some sort of consumer campaign to get this product back on the shelves where it belongs!! Evermore and Esenscia are fine, but they just don't replace Trinity. Please someone find us some information!!!
Hi everyone!
So Trinity got bought out by AMCON, in an unscrupulous manner, and the costs of the court battles cost too much, and everything had to be shut down.
Its so sad really.
There is not much consumers to do except to continue to support the good companies like Trinity who are conscious and have good core values.
what do you mean by unscrupulous? could you elaborate? why isnt amcon still producing it? What about the numbers ivolved? what was the purchase price and court battles etc.?
sincerely,
in my lifetime
It wasn't "unscrupulously" aquired by amcon. where on earth do you get your facts?
Dear Mr. nowayman, In My Lifetime here.
Said in the above article that the reason for the stop in production was that "The company is enmeshed in a bitter court battle over ownership and has subsequently run out of operating funds. It's a complicated matter that would be impossible to go into detail here."
Then I hear from a distributor that there was some misunderstanding when they sold of some of their holding in their new product line that somehow the mineral rights were in the bid and hence the court battle.
I admit its as pretty slim argument to be labeled "unscupulous" Perhaps you can enlighten us as to the true facts of the situation.
And good question, Where do you get your facts, anonymous? where do you get yours as well? I'm diggin, but all I seem to be getting is dirt.
Sincerely, Want to Know
In my lifetime
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_Oct_31/ai_n15764482
and http://www.amcon.com
here's what I've found so far. I too was wondering whatever happened to Trinity water. AMCON doesn't look like the kind of company to have Trinity be associated with. Trinity isn't found anywhere on their website.
I also find it interesting that their website is still running. Their phone numbers are working, but they do say no production, but are hopeful they will start up again. As far as I can tell, all their links are working. Maybe the stockholders are trying to buy back their stock.
My favorite Raw Foods store used to carry Trinity, but soon after replaced it with a water called Aquamantra. Their water is TDS 09 with a ph of 7.4 its awesome and it has affirmations on it. Something to do with the Dr. Emoto and water crystals. Its a runner up substitute for sure. I think its only here in Cali though.
I too am upset that Trinity is no longer available. It truly was the best water I ever tasted! Now I drink Essentia, the next best thing. It has antioxidants, electrolytes, and a whopping 9.5pH (the highest I've ever found in bottled water). You can find out more & order it online at www.essentiawater.com and get FREE shipping. There's a 3 case minimum, but if you're sick of looking in store after store for quality water, I think you'll find it's worth it.
I have one small bottle left of Trinity. I have enjoyed their water for many years, so I caught the end of their shippments a few months ago. I bought every case left at whole foods in the D.C. area. Whole Foods have failed to replace trinty's placement on their shelves. They replaced Trinty with Penta and Metro Mint (sigh).
Drinking water since they went out of business has been a sad affair for me. How could all the former consumers of this product form a cooperative to keep the water flowing?
It is so sad that such a fine quality product had to be ____ with! I am sure there are more crooked companies to put out of business?!
I have one small bottle left of Trinity. I have enjoyed their water for many years, so I caught the end of their shippments a few months ago. I bought every case left at whole foods in the D.C. area. Whole Foods have failed to replace trinty's placement on their shelves. They replaced Trinty with Penta and Metro Mint (sigh).
Drinking water since they went out of business has been a sad affair for me. How could all the former consumers of this product form a cooperative to keep the water flowing?
It is so sad that such a fine quality product had to be ____ with! I am sure there are more crooked companies to put out of business?!
Does anyone know what water is to be found in the D.C. area that is as pure and wonderful?
I too love Trinity and stock piled every bottle I could when I realized they were going out of business. I have about $300 worth in my closet, and that is half of what I originally stockpiled.
Like others, I found Essentia a very good substitute. I have also read on other sites that Essentia has a lot of good qualities.
I am now finding out that Whole Foods is dropping Appalachian Water (http://www.wspringwater.com/), another water I use (mostly for cooking and mixing protein shakes, etc.). It also has a very good taste and about half the price of Trinity and Essentia.
Peace, I have to be the most devoted lover of Trinity Water of Earth, knew them back when Joc Bell was the C.E.O. I could give a Trinity Presentation to anyone and they would have thought I owned the company. I had such great passion for this water that it was unparalleled by any other product that I consumed. Theres simply not another "LIVING" water on the shelf that even comes with-in light years of it!! Nothing that I have tasted in my life time can ever compare to Trinity. I knew the science of nature behind it, I knew of the Organic Building that surrounded the batholith, the intigrity, and the value. I do not know the full story behind its demise but I feel the individual or individuals responsible will meet with some highly negative Karma that not even "My Name is Earl" could save them from it. It is a travesty. I have to put lemons in every drop of water that I drink because it all sucks! Essentia, Evamore, Aquamantra, the whole lot of them. If anyone knows Trumps, Oparahs, The Popes, or Gods number then please call them and tell them to step forward and lay claim to what Ponce De Leon was searching for "The Fountain of Youth." I am also down for a co-op, I got $5, anybody else? Thanks for indulgeing me....
Last Official Statement By AMCON as of Oct 2, 2006.
Andrew Plummer, AMCON’s
Acting Chief Financial Officer. As previously reported, AMCON has been actively exploring the sale of Hawaiian Natural Water Company and has ceased operations at Trinity Springs and is engaged in settlement discussions.
Call Him and demand to know what the settlement preceedings are and urge him to move fast on the issue! Resolve it and continue opporations or sell it to someone that will!!! This is beyond ridicule!!!!
Thanks for clarifying what happened. I too have been missing that magical Trinity water..
I only noticed today Someonewhocares' post that gave the site of www.amcon.com, for which Trinity waters is a wholly-owned subsidiary.
As required by the Securities Exchange Commission, companies on publicly traded exchanges (and Amcon trades on AMEX (American Stock Exchange)) to release public information as to all their relevant transactions and dealings. These are all described on Amcon's site at the Link called "investor Relations". When you go there you will see links for all the press releases sorted by fiscal years. The story of what happened to Trinity starts in the press releases from September 2006 forward.
It is a little complicated but I will explain the gist here. Their server just went down so I can't check to make sure I have all the facts correct but the essence of what I write is correct:
Apparently around September there was an agreement between Amcon and its CEO, William Wright to sell 80% of Trinity along with certain other companies Amcon owned Wright. Their press release states the terms of the agreement -- it is pretty standard. Amcon signed an exclusive dealings agreement with Wright (because it takes time to put through a sale) with a provision if Amcon does not go through the deal, they will pay a $550,000 break-up fee to Wright. This is standard and anticipates that Amcon might find a better offer and sell there and this compensates Wright for losing out on the deal he has signed to. What I find a little confusing is that either party, Amcon or Wright can terminate the agreement at will -- except for the break-up fee (and some other terms.) Usually a break-up fee is included in the agreement if the person getting it has committed to NOT terminate the agreement, in this case Wright. But the agreement is clear that he is not committed and can terminate at any time.
This may be explained by what happened subsequently.
In order to sell substantial assets of a corporation, typically it has to be approved by the majority of shareholder votes. Apparently there were some shareholders of Amcon who were not happy with the sale to Wright and took it to court. They succeeded in convincing the judge that certain votes in favor of the sale should not have been counted. They were votes from shares issued as dividends, which normally should not be a problem. But if the plaintiff shareholders (the ones who did like the sale) could convince the court that these shares issued as dividends to certain parties was done so solely for the purpose of allowing those who wanted to sell to Wright to obtain the majority votes, when they would not have otherwise, the judge may have found under this circumstance that those votes shouldn't count. I am just guessing at that, but probably my guess isn't too far off.
So once the court declares that the dividend votes should not count and that leads to the result that the shareholder did NOT approve of the sale, then the question is what happens then.
There are 2 choices: either the aggrieved shareholders are given some form of money compensation or the contract of sale is rescinded and the parties have to be put back in the position they were in before. If the latter, this would mean that Wright would have to pay something to restore expenses etc to the shareholders and Trinity (and the other subsidiaries) would remain with Amcon.
I think that the anticipation of this possibility was the reason for the break-up fee of $550,000 to Wright. It was probably thought that is could be argued that that Amcon owed that fee if the sale was rescinded, which would reduce the value of the company to the Amcon shareholders and might discourage them from pursuing a suit.
In the interim, the banks which were providing loans to finance Trinity's operations cut of the loans, and one of the press releases indicated that Trinity might run out of operating funds (which it eventually did).
In December of 2006 there was another press release that stated that the agreement of sale was terminated by Amcon but it was still being awaited as to how the shareholders were going to be restored to their position before the sale. There is no mention of the break-up fee, so I don't know what happened to that. Shortly thereafter, the CFO (Chief financial officer -- not Wright) left the company to go elsewhere.
So far, that is all that is public in these press releases regarding this.
Subsequent press release refer to the company's preparations to be listed on AMEX.
So my guess is that this was a fight among the shareholders of Amcon as to whether they were going to sell to their CEO Wright or not. My guess is that Wright himself was a substantial shareholder in Amcon and wanted the companies for himself but knew he could not get the majority vote to approve it. My guess is that he and some others took shares as dividend payments in order to increase their voting power (one share one vote --- not one shareholder one vote) and they didn't succeed. In th meantime it creates a certain amount of chaos, bank are leery of this, they withdraw their financing and Trinity runs out of funds. The fight seems primarily to be over Trinity and bow it rests solidly with Amcon. SO my guess is it will be back on the market in a few months but perhaps under another label.
It comes from mountains near Paradise, Idaho... so keep your eyes peeled.
My analysis in the previous post had substantial errors. Now that Amcon's servers are up, I am able to make corrections.
The deal was started in October 2005, not September 2006. Trinity was acquired by Amcon in 2004. In the press release of October 2005, they state that Amcon shareholder approval would not be required because it was not a sale of substantially all its assets (it was only 80% and probably that to get around shareholder approval.)But it did require the approval of the bank lenders and payoffs on loans.
William Wright, the potential purchaser of Amcon's assets, was not only CEO but also Chairman of the Board and the largest (but clearly not the majority) stockholder in Amcon.
Amcon was to own only 85% of the stock in Trinity...
I made an error in my previous post about the problem of the sale of Trinity to William Wright.
It was the shareholders of Trinity regarding the sale of Trinity to Amcon that was the source of the suit.
I stated that it was the other shareholders of Amcon who filed suit with regard to the sale to William Wright. So my analysis of the dividend issue was incorrect. It did not involve the sale of Amcon's assets to William Wright but of Trinity's assets to Amcon.
My guess is that the Amcon;s intention to sell Trinity to William Wright was to make it more difficult for the Trinity shareholders to get it back.
It was the Trinity shareholders' suit that stated that the sale to Amcon was not valid because of the dividend shares being counted as votes to approve the sale to Amcon... not Amcon's vote to approve the sale to Wright.
So this lawsuit is the source of the fight over the mineral rights between Amcon and Trinity. The Trinity shareholders who did not want to sell Trinity to Amcon were able to succeed in court that the shareholder vote to approve the sale of Trinity to Amcon was invalid because of the dividend shares were counted as votes when they shouldn't have had.
So I now presume that Trinity was a closely-held corporation, either by family members or family members and friends. And they were fighting over whether to sell Trinity to Amcon or keep it. Since stockholder approval is necessary for such a sale, those who wanted to sell it counted votes from shares issued in lieu of dividends that apparently the court found was not appropriate. Why the court found that way I do not know unless I look up the case... which I tried, but I could not find it.
Regardless, the upshot is that the sale of Trinity to Amcon has to be addressed... is it to be rescinded or is Amcon going to make Trinity shareholders whole through monetary compensation.
Following subsequent Amcon releases, there is occasional mention of the legal problems with Trinity, the fact that Trinity no longer has a source for operating funds and that it may file for bankruptcy.
Amcon continues to list Trinity as one of its subsidiaries through June 2006 and then suddenly drops it from their list of holdings.
In their August 2006, which is their press release regarding their financial statement, they say they ceased operations of Trinity back in March of 2006 and are in the process of negotiating a settlement with regard to the legal matters.
That is their last mention of Trinity in any subsequent press release.
SO my guess is that Trinity has reverted back to its original shareholders, is in bankruptcy and there is a question of whether Amcon will be compensated for its loss...
My guess now is that it will be years before Trinity water is back on the market. My guess is the assets of the company will be sold to satisfy certain debts and someone else will buy the rights and start up the company again down the road under a different name.
It is amazing how conflict in business dealings can end up in destroying everything for everyone and no one ends up with anything and every one ends up much worse off.
yes. Thank you for following up. It is a shame, that everytime there is something really good that comes out, it seems to get ruined or taken away. If there was no court battle, sick people would be getting well from this water. I depended on this water and now I have to drink other water that does not stand up to it. What a sad shame. It sickens me that people cannot benefit from such good water because of greed and court battles of stupid crap. This world needs to change rapdily into a more caring and loving accepting place for everyone to benefit and be happy and well... Example: if Aveda did not get so selfish and big they would not keep reinventing the wheel and instead could have stuck with what simply worked and made so many people happy. They were greedy and well... sold out. Such a shame. Makes me sick. Not that trinity sold out, it;s just a shame how things manifest.
Yes Thank You MUCH,Justitia, for clarifing all of that! Exellent work! I appreciate the follow up as well. I think You are very right about trinity being family owned and not wanting to sell. I spoke with the owner and CEO of Trinity before 2004 and about becoming a distributer. At the time it was a private company ( I inquired about becoming a stock holder) and he was very adiment about keeping it that way. I asked him if he would ever consider selling it and he explicidly said no!
A few years later I followed up on that distribution tip to find that the company had grown expidentially and the their were now regional offices and Sales proffesionals I had to go through that I did not encounter before. I also noticed I could find on more shelves. tracked down one of the origional guys I delt with and things seemed shady. I think I cought up with him at home. He had offered me a tour of the spring way back that was now no longer available.
Needless to say I was super suprized to hear that they in any way sold the company when I heard about Amcon. It makes sense about the Legal battle.
The origional owner was quoted saying that the legal battle would ensue for a while and when asked about when trinity would be back on the shevles he said, " Not in my lifetime." Lets hope for our sake He is wrong, I like you have a dwindling supply. I need not go into the value of the water at this time but lets just say Few things have captivated me more.
I have only a few Questions:
What were the terms of the Origional sale to amcon, that is, How much did it go for(aledgedly go for)
Who is liable for Amcons inconvienance? and what is the "just compensation?" -
I am assuming Its the $550,000. you spoke of previously.
Who is William Wright and why does he want trinity for himself?
And last but Not least.. Once the Company was released back to Its origional Owners, why did the banks continue to pull back their funding on a fairly reputable company with such a huge consumer base? And Why does No other finacial Intitution step in?? What would it take ( how much) to sort the whole thing out?
Perhaps I'm overlooking something but this seems a little Odd. I wonder....
Well, it would certainly be 'unfortunate' if trinity assets were siezed and liquidated.
One thing is For sure, It is going to take the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost( Spitit) to sort this one out. Who else is In?
-Someone who cares... (a lot)
Does anyone know if the date posted on the bottles is that important? I just purchased a case of trinity water at a local health food store and the next day noticed the case and the bottles were marked 040705 is this an expiration date and if so...what would you do? Are the minerals depleted after so long?
Thanks.
Hmmm. Which store (where exactly?) did you buy that case of water?
To Someomewhocares, I do not in fact know what has happened to Trinity, whether it reverted back to the original family or not. I was merely conjecturing based on my experience as an attorney in these matters what was the most likely scenario.
As I said in my original post, I think the sale of Trinity from Amcon to William Wright, its dominate shareholder was a defensive act to prevent the original Trinity family from getting back the company from Amcon. One might view Amcon and William Wright as one and the same (or nearly so.) It is common when an individual enters a business to form a corporation for the limited liability protection. My guess is that Wright was the main individual and investor to purchase Trinity form the original family. He did it by forming Amcon to be the actual purchaser and he and other investors were Amcon's stockholders. When the dispute within the trinity family arose as to the sale of Trinity to Amcon, I think Wright wanted to purchase it outright from Amcon to make it legally more difficult for the part of the Trinity family that did not want to sell in the first place to get it back. But the effort failed. I think the "break-up" fee was probably to ensure that William Wright would get his investment money back from Amcon in case Amcon folded. If Amcon folded, creditors get paid first before shareholders. If Wright was solely a shareholder, then he had less of a chance to get his investment money back. The breakup fee created a debt bu Amcon to him and assured that he wold be treated as a creditor, at least for that amount and more likely to get that money back.
But above is all conjecture on my part, deducing from what facts are present.
I don't know the sales price to Amcon, it was not in the press releases. It does not really matter (unless you are thinking of buying it :-) ) because now, as a result of the court decision the sale is null and void and Trinity goes back to its original family members and the purchase price Amcon paid goes back to Amcon (and presumably at least part to Wright to pay the break-up fee.)
The banks withdrew their funding because banks are always nervous when there are legal battles. There is a risk the company will go under (as it did in this case) and the banks will not be repaid. So banks are rather quick to call in their (short term) loans and to dry up offering any continued cash flow. Of course this exacerbates whatever problems there are, but the bank's responsibility is to its depositors and must be conservative in its investment undertakings. You would not like to find out that the funds in you checking and savings account are gone because of unsound investments by your banks.
But if you have large amounts of capital to invest, you might nose around and see if you cannot round up a group of investors to purchase the license to the Trinity Springs. But before you do, you need to find out why some of the original Trinity investors wanted to sell it. It may be because they could get more money form selling it to Amcon than running it themselves in the long run because they did not have the skill and wherewithal to run an expanding corporation. If that is the case, then you might want to question you own abilities to run an increasingly large enterprise. It is not easy and takes a lot of business acumen that goes way beyond caring about the quality of water. Very few people have the skill to do both. Only two companies come to mind who have demonstrated the ability to care about the social as well as business impact successfully: Google and Southwest Airlines -- and i am sure you are aware how unique they are.
To Kim: i don't know if the number yo have stamped on you bottles are a date or not. If it does not say Exp or expiration before or after it, then if it is a date, it is probably the date the water was bottled. The kind of plastic that Trinity uses to bottles its water is a very high quality plastic and should not affect the water. The clear bottles are much higher quality than the opaque bottles which tend to affect the taste and probably the water inside it.
I do recommend Essentia as a substitute.
Cheers
Justitia
Jake, the store was "Down to Earth" in Endicott, NY.
To Kim:
I wasn't sure if you saw this message buried in my previous one.
I don't know if the number yo have stamped on you bottles are a date or not. If it does not say Exp or expiration before or after it, then if it is a date, it is probably the date the water was bottled. The kind of plastic that Trinity uses to bottles its water is a very high quality plastic and should not affect the water. The clear bottles are much higher quality than the opaque bottles which tend to affect the taste and probably the water inside it.
I do recommend Essentia as a substitute.
Cheers
Justitia
I am a middle aged woman, neither a hippie, nor a health food addict, and I drank tap water and random bottled water when it was convenient. Then one day I bought some Trinity water - yellow label - at Whole Foods. Wow! I never knew that water could be GOOD. Then it disappeared. Thank you for all your comments and information and suggestions. I am going to try all the recomnmendations and see if anything is even close. I doubt it will be.
Show me the water already!!!
I'm thirsty.
To Justitia:
Thank you for the information, i appreciate your response. -Kim
I discovered Trinity Water back in April/May 2006. It was hard to find but I found it at the local health food store. After I learned that the company was out of business, I purchased all the remaining cases from the store; five cases of the gold lable bottles plus the remaining single bottles. I gave one away as a gift and I am personally down to my last 2 six packs.
Trinity was second to none, by far. Now I must settle for second best among the pack.
Aloha Justitia!
you still out there? would love to chat! mahalos, JJ
Aloha Justitia!
you still out there? would love to chat! mahalos, JJ
To everyone that has posted on this blog so far:
To learn about the components of water and their effects on taste, mouthfeel, and health, go to http://aquamaestro.com/truth.asp (By the way, even if 2 waters have a similar TDS level, the minerals could be totally different, so it's not the first basis for comparison I'd recommend) Then, go find "Fine Waters" a book recently published by Michael Mascha. It compares waters from all over the world and is more fun to read than a chemistry table. His website is ok as well: wwww.finewaters.com. If you're able to identify specific mineral levels in water just by tasting it, then you're much better able to find a water you will like. These tools will help you do this.
We are all sad about Trinity... and I think the best thing we can do as consumers is to become connoisseurs in our own right, share this information with our friends, and help grow interest in this new market so that more fine waters are supported. One day I hope to go to a theater or sporting event and find that my options are more than Dasani and Aquafina. God, I hate Aquafina.
Many thanks to Justitia for her time attempting to translate this mess.
I had done a search some time ago when supplies were running low & I heard a runour of the legal battle. I immedietly purchased all of the cases of Trinity I could afford and advised my fellow Trinity lovers to do the same. I gave up looking for info until tonight when I came across this while looking for info on a water I recently found and liked -Evamore. (I thought it odd that Evamore's website has no "human" contact info listed)....then I fondly remembered my 1.Tru-love = Trinity. I had a conversation once via email with the Dr.Roy Johnson, QA Manager about the different types of fluoride and which ones are in Trinity and healthy vs. the chemical versions forced into some municipal water systems. I remember meeting what I believe was one of the owners at a health fair when the product 1st came out. I don't remember his name but he gave my writer-friend a tour for her article and I remember he was a hit-by-lightning survivor and told us his story.
It is so amazingly wonderful to find other Trinity-water lovers out there sharing similar stories and thoughts. I am a VERY big fan and have been for many years. I now have a concealed private stash that I ration. I will make it last in good faith till the waters run again..!! Trinity had always kept my thirst alive. Let's continue a Trinity blog -- and talk about all of the good things in life that should remain present.
Damn lawyers & corporate greed
Peace to all - Mahalo -Trinity No Ka Oi ~ Kirra
p.s. Thanks Stella for sharing the chem-info/goumet-water sites.
God -I hate Arrowhead..>> something evil in that water...
Thank you Justitia for all your diligence and your help in attempting to clarify the situation. I do miss Trinity and hope it returns soon!
Icelandic Glacial water is the best in my opinion with a smooth feel without an after taste, high pH of 7.75 and a tds of 68!
This is my conclusion after trying most in the market after loosing my old friend Triny!
Hey wait a minute! I have now heard that this Icelandic water is 9.5 ph then again I hear it is 7.75 what's up? Since we have no access to Trinity anymore (Essientia is pretty much "manufactured water) unless somebody has a better idea I'll just stick with Figi.
K
After being introduced to Trinity water I drank water all the time, and I used to buy about 10 cases at a time which would last me for a few weeks or months. When I noticed that Whole Foods stopped restocking it and kept saying "we expect a shipment soon but not sure when" I searched high and low for any remaining cases but alas, coulnd't find much and ran out a LONG time ago.
This is truly a sad tale and I have not been drinking much water since then. When I do it's mostly cheap stuff since none of the other expensive waters have been anything special or worht their price from my point of view.
If Trinity ever resurfaces I'll be one of the first to start consuming it again, although i don't expect it will be handled as well as the previous owners did (the bottles will be cheaper, the price will be much higher). It will most likely be about money rather than quality.
anyone find Icelandic water in San Diego?
Justitia - First of all, thanks for all your efforts in researching Trinity. I met Jock Bell, one of the Trinity co-founders in Oct 2005 while visiting in Twin Falls, ID. I've been trying to get in touch with him for the past year or so without any luck. Do you know if he is still involved in Trinity and if he continues to live in the Sun Valley area? thx
Tom
Funny, I just watched a show on "Fine Living" and guess what was being shown. Right! Trinity Water Springs, the whole production, bottling, and procedure on collecting the water. The building in which all was done. Someone want to comment on this. I am on the east coast so what do I know!
@rushlite
have a look at this... that's why I don't drink fiji at all!!
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/biz2/0701/gallery.101dumbest_2007/20.html
otherwise contact icelandic on their website.. www.icelandicglacial.com and they can tell you where you can get the water in San Diego
I have had profound,positive tangible healing experiences using Trinity water for people recovering from cancer. I would like to know of more Trinity water news, or comparable water.
Thanks,
ursula
If anybody can bring Trinity back, "IT'S ME"!
I have been reading this blog all morning. And, like all of you, I am on a mission.
I am in the functional water business. Creating formulas, getting patents on them, bringing them to market, and trying to offer Life Extending options thru Beverage Innovations.
I did notice the absence of phone numbers or e mail contacts for the individuals involved with Trinity.
Perhaps the terms of service do not allow phone numbers, so I will leave mine out.
You can find my contact info at www.aqua-tine.com
I have the ability and connections to bring Trinity beck to market. I can however use all the help I can get.
Regards,
Stuart Garret
sfgume@aol.com
So if Trinity is gone, who's the best now?
THANKS
I switched to Icelandic Glacial when Trinity was no longer awailable but this summer after visiting Iceland I have changed my mind. I was on my way to the Vestman islands when I saw Icelandic glacials water bottling facility in Thorlakshofn. OMG its located in an old fish factory and when I asked a local resident about the source of the water he told me its just municipal water. So much for the spring water. I feel like a foul paying big bucks for tabwater. Shame on you Icelandic Glacial. Bring Trinity back.
There is a new water coming to a store near you. It is treated with Coral Calcium, has a 9.5 ph, and loaded with minerals.
Look for it in a store near you!
Please free trinity water for us.
why was something so good taken away from us?
Wow! Who knew?...I have recomended Trinity Water to people in the past when they asked me which bottled water I prefered.
It's YUMMY and sooooo good for you too!
Just recently a very near and dear friend of mine has been diagnosed with Hodgkins Disease, a rare form of Lymphoma Cancer. I was telling him that he needed to drink alkaline water. To help aid his immune system. I'm sooooo sad that Trinity (the fountain of youth here on Earth) is no longer bottling or distributing. I will let him know about some of the recommended subsitutes.
...What a shame.
-Wishing for a better (healthier) Planet Earth- DJ Willow from Paris
Wow! Who knew?...I have recomended Trinity Water to people in the past when they asked me which bottled water I prefered.
It's YUMMY and sooooo good for you too!
Just recently a very near and dear friend of mine has been diagnosed with Hodgkins Disease, a rare form of Lymphoma Cancer. I was telling him that he needed to drink alkaline water. To help aid his immune system. I'm sooooo sad that Trinity (the fountain of youth here on Earth) is no longer bottling or distributing. I will let him know about some of the recommended subsitutes.
...What a shame.
-Wishing for a better (healthier) Planet Earth- DJ Willow from Paris
the litigation keeping trinity off the market has been settled. AMCON distribution settled with crystal paradise holdings inc. in October here is the web link
http://www.amcon.com/currentpressreleases.aspx
Hello to Jake and Kim,
Concerning the code stamped on the Trinity Water, purchased at "Down to Earth" in Endicott, NY, I'm the owner of that store. You see, I was also very pained to hear that Trinity would not be offered as the NMS version anymore. I went months without it. Then, one of my distributors found 35 cases of it tucked in their warehouse, and offered it to me at a good price. So I bought them all.
I set up a case stack, sold a few cases out of the store, and then someone in Ma. purchased my remaining stock, and had me ship them to Ma. I haven't had them in again since.
I'm sure that the stock was in the warehouse for a while, considering it had been "out of stock" from that distributor for months. I thought that since it was no longer being made, the diehards for Trinity would be delighted to find it. I personally don't think that there would be any issues with the water.
YUNIs it has its own bore hole hence spring water, I am sure NSF would know better then any local.
http://nsf.org/Certified/BWPI/Listings.asp?BrandName=icelandic+glacial&
My web-search led me here after spending some time with Jock Bell this past weekend. He seems optimistic about the future, however, I can't elaborate further on the status of the company, ongoing legal embroilments, or his personal stake in the company. For the record, the science behind the product is verifiable.
I use to drink Trinity water.
MY husband told me the reverse osmosis out of our sink was fine. So I starting drinking that. I was very sick for almost a year. Recently I went to the Conscious life Expo in LA. They had a booth that tested water. Our sample from our home was tested acidic. The man suggested Figi water with a Ph of 7.5. I have been drinking that instead for the past three weeks finally I feel better with more energy.
My husband does not like the taste of most spring waters and prefers the reverse osmosis in our home. He did research on Internet and they
said distilled or reverse osmosis was fine. I highly disagree. Will someone tell him why Figi is better for his health! I truly miss Trinity water!!!
Sunny, I've also had bad experiences with distilled water. I was drinking it exclusively for about 6 months and was not doing well. Immediately felt better upon drinking spring water.
I got a water PH chart from a company that sells a water ionizer( not interested in that) but in any case distilled and RO water were tested as being acidic and that makes sense to me. So I just don't understand how people can recommentd them.
I'm laying in bed dying of thirst... NOTHING sounds good but Trinity.... nope.... none for over a year now....
uuuuugggggg! this sux!
I'm laying in bed dying of thirst... NOTHING sounds good but Trinity.... nope.... none for over a year now....
uuuuugggggg! this sux!
I'm laying in bed dying of thirst... NOTHING sounds good but Trinity.... nope.... none for over a year now....
uuuuugggggg! this sux!
Trinity seems to be back!!! I can't believe it... It was just a fluke that I decided to look up trinity tonight and lo and behold -- their website has a 2008 date -- so they must be back: http://www.trinitysprings.com/default.asp
I jumped the gun!! Sorry... It is true their website is updated but you can't order anything and when I called the customer satisfaction number -- I got recording that said they are not distributing the water at this time but hope to soon.
Well, we will see....
I still have about a dozen bottles of the 16 oz size left... so it goes...
Just getting into the alkaline water. And found that Evamor was recalled in Michigan. This is what Meijers store told me in Greenville, Mi. Can't seem to find any other Alkaline water out there.
To Eagle1
Try going through www.finewaters.com and www.aquamaestro.com. Here you will find a few bottled water with the ph balance as high as an 8 - not too bad huh?
(Forgot to add)
...and some close to a ph 8.
Hello there, fellow Trinity keepsakes... If any of you on here has beautiful access into Possessing that grand bottled water... won't you Please, please let me know.. email me at mochahwut@aol.com ... Trinity is precious .
thank you.
Ok Ladies and Gentlemen here is the final word on the continuing saga of the best water that mother nature has ever produced...... Ahem, are there any lawyers in the house?
Trinity Springs. Inc. / Crystal Paradise Holdings, Inc. Litigation
The Company and its consolidated subsidiary, TSI, were involved in litigation regarding an April 24, 2004 Asset Purchase Agreement ("Asset Purchase Agreement"), under which TSI acquired certain assets from Trinity Springs, Ltd. (which later changed its name to Crystal Paradise Holdings, Inc. ("CPH")). In September 2007, the Company signed a Mutual Release and Settlement Agreement (the "Settlement Agreement") with CPH related to this litigation. The Settlement Agreement resulted in the mutual release and settlement of all outstanding and potential litigation and claims among and between minority shareholder plaintiffs, CPH, AMCON, TSI, and Defendant Directors with respect to the Asset Purchase Agreement and the related acquisition. The presiding Court approved the settlement and dismissed the related lawsuit with prejudice. The Company faces no further known liability from that lawsuit or settlement.
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In exchange for (i) a full and complete release from CPH, (ii) cancellation of the promissory notes issued in connection with the original acquisition,
(iii) termination of the Asset Purchase Agreement and water royalty contained therein, and (iv) relinquishment of the TSI stock owned by CPH, (a) TSI issued a promissory note in the amount of $5.0 million to CPH, with interest accruing at 5% and secured by the assets currently held by TSI (the "New Note"), (b) AMCON amended and restated the existing Guaranty and Suretyship Agreement to substitute the New Note for the cancelled notes, and (c) TSI granted CPH an eleven-month option to purchase the assets of TSI. If CPH elects to exercise its purchase option, then CPH will cancel the New Note, including the obligation to pay any accrued interest. The purchase option may be extended for an additional seven months upon the discharge of all accrued interest during the initial option period.
.....Hope this helps guys, mean while I am thirsty.
Ok Ladies and Gentlemen here is the final word on the continuing saga of the best water that mother nature has ever produced...... Ahem, are there any lawyers in the house?
Trinity Springs. Inc. / Crystal Paradise Holdings, Inc. Litigation
The Company and its consolidated subsidiary, TSI, were involved in litigation regarding an April 24, 2004 Asset Purchase Agreement ("Asset Purchase Agreement"), under which TSI acquired certain assets from Trinity Springs, Ltd. (which later changed its name to Crystal Paradise Holdings, Inc. ("CPH")). In September 2007, the Company signed a Mutual Release and Settlement Agreement (the "Settlement Agreement") with CPH related to this litigation. The Settlement Agreement resulted in the mutual release and settlement of all outstanding and potential litigation and claims among and between minority shareholder plaintiffs, CPH, AMCON, TSI, and Defendant Directors with respect to the Asset Purchase Agreement and the related acquisition. The presiding Court approved the settlement and dismissed the related lawsuit with prejudice. The Company faces no further known liability from that lawsuit or settlement.
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In exchange for (i) a full and complete release from CPH, (ii) cancellation of the promissory notes issued in connection with the original acquisition,
(iii) termination of the Asset Purchase Agreement and water royalty contained therein, and (iv) relinquishment of the TSI stock owned by CPH, (a) TSI issued a promissory note in the amount of $5.0 million to CPH, with interest accruing at 5% and secured by the assets currently held by TSI (the "New Note"), (b) AMCON amended and restated the existing Guaranty and Suretyship Agreement to substitute the New Note for the cancelled notes, and (c) TSI granted CPH an eleven-month option to purchase the assets of TSI. If CPH elects to exercise its purchase option, then CPH will cancel the New Note, including the obligation to pay any accrued interest. The purchase option may be extended for an additional seven months upon the discharge of all accrued interest during the initial option period.
.....Hope this helps guys, mean while I am thirsty.
If anyone gets any information on Trinity water could you please e-mail the informatiion to me at jar2kay@yahoo.com.
THX
The US gov't has a tag placed on Trinity Springs. While Amcon was distribution, the tag (if you go to Paradise Idaho) says this is government property.
What does this mean? It was set in 2001 that under bioterrorist attack and since Trinity could be stored for 15 years without any measurable spoilage or changes, a gov't storage facility and program was enacted for water storage.
It won't be labeled Trinity Water since this is not about advertising. No other water is being chosen because they needed a water that gushed out of the ground at high speeds over 150-200mph so it could not be contaminated.
just enjoy the discussion and read the righ information about trinity
Trinity will be back early 2009. At the shareholders meeting on Dec. 10, 2008 the vote was "yes" to selling to a new owner who is commited to bring it back. This should be good news to all here who love the product.
Can't wait. Look forward to the update for when it's available!
great news about the return of trinity ive missed it so much.there is just something very magnificant about the taste. cant wait for it to be back on the shelfs.
The best water to drink is pure water which is water that has been distilled or purified through a reverse osmosis membrane. Legally spring water is any water that is potable. That means that you can drink it without getting sick. So that includes tap water.
I think that Trinity Water was removed because it plays an extremely benificial part in helping our bodies fight the effects of certain chemicals being forced upon us via the air we breath.
Any further news on the sale of Trinity to the new owner and plans to bring the water back to market?
I can't believe it has been 3 years since this all started. I am down to my last 6 16 oz bottles of Trinity and just drink one when I feel like a good "bottle of wine" except it is water.
I have to say -- I've been drinking Essentia all this time and I have been extremely happy with it -- even though it is not a natural but manufactured water. I definitely see the effects on my skin and overall well-being when I drink my 8 glass a day minimum.
Looking forward to any posted news.
WL8VgG
WL8VgG
Was at Trinity about a month or so ago while out morel hunting, it's still all closed up and sitting idle. Looks like a really kewl place though I've never tried the water. Sorry to all of you Trinity lovers.
when is trinity coming back ... down to my last bottle here !!!
Okay, Trinity water was flowing into my stomach a couple of minutes ago. You are all correct, this water is delicious! Coming out of the ground at around 138F, letting it cool down a bit, then straight into the bottle. No humans messing with the properties of the water whatsoever. Source matters, it is coming from a gigantic granite batholith in Idaho. The bottom is said to be 2.2 miles deep! That is 11,616 feet! The carbon dating on the water puts it between 16,000 and 40,000 years old! Believe me, this water is coming back. Ahhhh, just took another swig. We will all be benefitting from Trinity soon. It WILL be available.
Wow - this is very interesting. I don't remember ever hearing about Trinity water. However, I recently re-discovered Dr. Masaru Emoto and his work with water. I get my water from the springs in Saratoga, NY and then I let it 'listen' to Classical music (usually Beethoven, he's my personal favorite) before I drink it. And it really does taste better afterward. If I can't get up to the springs for a refill, I run tap water thru a Brita filter and then let it listen and sit out overnight (to let the chlorine escape!) before I drink it.







Wow, thats very interesting.
I was wondering why it hadn't been on the shelf lately. Thanks for clearing that all up.
Sure hope that ownership battle gets resolved soon. Trinity bottles some great stuff. I've been missing it.
Daniel